Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to deliver national security approach to Islamic State

Updated about an hour agoTue 24 Nov 2015, 9:06am

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull will deliver a national security statement today outlining his approach to groups like Islamic State (IS).

It is expected to contrast with former PM Tony Abbott’s statement in February, which he delivered at the Federal Police headquarters flanked by six flags.

“In proclaiming this caliphate, the Islamist death cult has declared war on the world,” Mr Abbott said.

Mr Turnbull’s version is likely to reflect a speech he gave in July that warned terrorism should not be underestimated, but the threat from IS should not be overplayed.

“We need to be very careful we don’t get sucked into their strategy and ourselves become amplifiers of their wickedness and significance,” he said in a speech to the Sydney Institute.

Mr Abbott’s February statement included plans to strip dual nationals of their Australian citizenship if they are fighting with terrorists.

That bill is now in the House of Representatives and will pass with Labor’s support.

Concerns over new laws to strip citizenship from terror suspects

Although, some in the Opposition hold strong concerns, including backbencher Melissa Parke.

“I believe the bill is still likely to be judged unconstitutional. In my view the bill remains contrary to the rule of law and the principles of natural justice and as such should not be passed by Parliament,” Ms Parke said.

Labor frontbencher Stephen Jones expressed a reservation that there is no judicial review of the citizenship stripping.

“I have some concerns about these provisions in the bill. I would not be at all surprised if they were subject to a constitutional challenge and if that constitutional challenge was successful,” he told Parliament.

The Government cites advice from the Solicitor-General that the bill is constitutional, but it has refused requests from Labor and from Parliament’s Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security to provide that advice.

While Labor is backing the bill despite its reservations, Greens MP Adam Bandt will not support it, nor will independent Cathy McGowan.

“My opposition to the bill is not directed at the intent or purpose of the bill,” Ms McGowan said.

“It is focused very clearly at the inclusion of a retrospective provision and, under the cloud of uncertainty, on the constitutional viability of this bill.

“I know that the bill has been amended following recommendations from the Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security, and there have been a raft of necessary amendments.

“But it appears that, even after the amendments have been made, the bill may be constitutionally vulnerable, and if this bill is so very important and critical to the health, safety and welfare of all Australians in the face of terrorism, it should be invincible.”

‘Happy to see individuals with sole Australian citizenship stripped’

But debate rages about the measure, with some in the Coalition like Liberal backbencher Tony Pasin saying he would back the removal of citizenship from people who are not dual nationals.

“Of course, we are speaking here of the automatic loss of citizenship for those who hold dual citizenship,” Mr Pasin told Parliament.

“As for me, I would be happy to see individuals with sole Australian citizenship stripped of that standing if they were to take up arms and fight for a foreign non-power such as Daesh or the Islamic State but, of course, our international conventions prevent us from doing that.”

Labor frontbencher Michelle Rowland is critical of the broader process, telling Parliament the Government has also failed to produce a final report on the rights and responsibilities of citizenship that it promised earlier this year.

“The Government launched a discussion paper entitled Australian citizenship, your right, your responsibility and held a number of public meetings,” Ms Rowland said.

“This process was led by the Assistant Minister for Multicultural Affairs, and then Parliamentary Secretary to the Social Services Minister and the Attorney-General, Senator Fierravanti-Wells, as well as the member for Berowra, who was appointed the special envoy for citizenship.

“From day one this process has been plagued by inconsistency and inadequacy. Most notably, we are still waiting on the outcome of this process, despite the fact that this bill is now being debated,” she said.

A question be asked across this country on social media and in bars is does “Reclaim Australia represent real average Aussies and Australian values”.

Despite attempts by the tellivision media, Get-up, The Greens, Labor, The Fairfax Press, SBS, ABC and most television nedia playing patronising games with polls manipulated by online autobots, the clear answer is yes.

Reclaim is expressing a frustration that many aussie families are feeling in being heard in this debate about multiculturalism and forced cultural change with our politicians and media showing contempt for the very genuine concerns of a majority of your fellow Australians and why would you want to do that?

Well do something to stop what happened in Paris , New York, Bali and many other places over 20 years or more happening here, stop the bullshit policy that says we cannot discriminate when it comes to Islam.

Stop balming the Australian people and culture for having anything to do with creating this ver real and present danger that is Islamist extremism.

Islam is the bad apple that has spoiled to multicultural box, all over the world, in central africa, in northern africa, in the middle east, in the UK, throughout the EU, in Rusia, Pakistan, India, China, Malysia and Indonesia Islamic extremism is a real threat to innnocent populations who only want to be able to go on with their lives without the threat of Islam and Sharia hanging over them or their children’s future.

Islam is not a race, nor is it simply a religion. Black Africans or Americans may be Islamic, many Northern Africans of a very different race are Islamic, Arabs, White Europeans, Indian, Pakistani, Chinese, Malay and Indonesians all make up the over a billion Islamic races.

So we know it as incontrvertable fact that race is not an issue when we talk about Islam.

Yet here in Australia whenever we have normal Aussies try to demonstrate their own concerns about militant Isalimists and the real and present threat to our culture and our childrens future in the street, they are confronted by a vicious and violent opposing demonstration branding them “Racists” organisd by the Socialist Alliance who call them selves “anti racists”, yet what do we hear from the media?

Socialist alliance and their logistical support from the Greens, Labor Left, Get-up, the Fairfax Press, the publicly funded SBS, ABC, are the same mob who organise BDS protests outside Jewish Businesses.

The Socialist Alliance is a radical socialist party in Australia which engages in a combination of grass roots activism and electoral politics. With branches in most states and territories,^[1] and electoral registration federally and in a number of states, it claims to be the largest group on the Australian far Left.^[2]

Due to its unusual structure as a broad alliance, rather than a politically homogeneous socialist organisation, the Socialist Alliance places less emphasis on expounding one particular tradition or version of socialism as do many other socialist groups.

The Socialist Alliance’s stated aim is to “replace the capitalist system with one in which the fundamental elements of the economy are socially owned and controlled and democratic systems of popular power established” through a “sustained mass campaign of total opposition to capitalism”.^[3]

Socialist Alliance Anti Racists are representative of the progressive political thuggery that dominates the politics and media in this country, they are there to spoil and create violence so that the clear message about the very real threat of Islam is muddied in the media.

We should be able to expect a lot more from the police and media in identifying and preventing this disgracefull interference with the democratic and civil rights of a normal Aussie who has a worry with Islam being allowed to voice that concern without being attacked and involved in a confrontation in the street that is clearly designed by the Socialist alliance to deter mums and dads from attending with their kids.

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